| #1 DoomDragon (port8-32.gettysburg.desupernet.net)[16881] |
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| The people who obsess about getting the first comment need mental help, agreed? |
| #2 Mellinium_Ben2 (spider-wg014.proxy.aol.com)[16883] |
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| I agree.BTW,nice report. |
#3 (HNW0511.RESNET-STUDE[16885] |
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| nify! |
| #4 Drefsab (168.91.128.9)[16886] |
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| hmm, I actually thought that Mark might lose a game for a change... good game... great details in the report. |
#5 [16887] |
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| Looks great but I'm gonna change that HUGE ass font your using.. Me thinks you didn't mean to do that. |
| #6 DoomDragon (port8-32.gettysburg.desupernet.net)[16889] |
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| Yeah, I really didn't mean to make it that big. Making it smaller would be a good thing. Muchas gracias. |
#7 [16890] |
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| Ah there.. Much better on Johnny's tired old eyes... |
#8 (HNW0511.RESNET-STUDE[16892] |
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damn
should've read it after Johnny did. heh.
Doom, try warping text around your images. It'll look much better this way. |
| #9 DoomDragon (port8-32.gettysburg.desupernet.net)[16893] |
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| Ok, ill try to wrap text, and you 2 raters, while your here, RATE IT! ANd i really don't know how the font got that big. |
| #10 <img "/images2/n_fls.gif">[16895] |
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I'm rating it!
sorry I'm trying to figure out how to get those ugly IP address off my title. =]
I won't say when I'll rate it cuz you'll know how high I rated it! =P |
| #11 JoLLy~TeAcuP<font color=red> (BR.COM TeaCup)<font color=black> (proxy3-external.[16899] |
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| so many comments, so quickly... |
| #12 DoomDragon (port8-32.gettysburg.desupernet.net)[16900] |
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| YES YES YES! I CANT BELIEVE I GOT AN 8.5. Heck, i was hoping for somethign like a 6.5 or a 7.0 AT MOST! WHOAH YEAH! a 8.5 on my seoncd BR! |
| #13 Fractal_Wave (proxy1.gvcl1.bc.wave.home.com)[16904] |
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Doom, this report makes up for you botspamming me. This OOOWWWNNNSSS, i just wish i could see the pictures...
All the best,
Fractal_Wave |
| #14 Sp|nE (dialup10-10-pri.voicenet.com)[16907] |
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NewbieMcNasty could definately pose a threat to Mark4, he's a 1350 ladderer, always as terran. But gg nonetheless ... and, hrmmm ... i heard this game lasted like 1:20, but the br seems like it wasn't even an hour long game. I dunno ... how long'd it last?
I say it deserves a 7.5-8, btw =] |
| #15 <img "/images2/n_fls.gif">[16910] |
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NewbieMcNasty is 1350 terrans?
nify then how the heck could I beat him twice TvT on temple? =[
Ahscar will own me so I'm definitely not even close to 1400. =[ |
| #16 <img "/images2/n_fls.gif">[16911] |
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urr stupid tab button!
All I'll have to say is,
NewBieMcNasty is pretty good with unit control, peon production, and such, but his recon is just not very good. He understands a lot of concepts and implement them well. But when recon kicks in..... especially in 1v1... and Mark4 is definitely one of the players who are very good at recon. |
| #17 Sp|nE (dialup10-10-pri.voicenet.com)[16912] |
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Eh maybe a stretch of the truth a bit, but i know he's 1300 =p
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| #18 Sp|nE (dialup10-10-pri.voicenet.com)[16913] |
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| Yeah recon is definately his weakness |
| #19 Sp|nE (dialup10-10-pri.voicenet.com)[16914] |
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| Yeah recon is definately his weakness |
| #20 Asha'man~(X) (sdn-ar-003cocsprP068.dialsprint.net)[16918] |
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| Good Report Doom. Keep it up! |
| #21 Pitt (res6486.student.nd.edu)[16921] |
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| heh like there was a doubt. I'd say good work sir but you're just living up to expectations. |
| #22 Persian-POW (proxy2-external.rdc1.az.home.com)[16922] |
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| FLS, the funny part about those games you beat him on temple is he asked me I thought you hacked after the first game. HAHAHA, you just own him I guess. |
| #23 Excalibur_Z (37-pool1.ras12.casnc.agisdial.net)[16923] |
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Doom, great report! Such a shame that it didn't get a 9+, but that's probably because of the pictures being a little out-of-place. Text wrapping, as I read above, would've been a real asset. What happened with the unit captions? You didn't use any? (sniff) I'm starting to forget YRM's style, don't mind me =P.
As for the players, Mark4 was godly as always, and NewbieMcNasty played a helluva game. Too bad Mark4 went so heavy on sairs, and of course we all know he's in love with Psi Storm =).
Good job though, I was looking forward to reading this ever since I heard about this battle.
Excalibur_Z |
#24 (dt030n35.tampabay.rr[16925] |
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| Mark didn't die, therefore this BR sucked =] |
| #25 <img "/images2/n_fls.gif">[16933] |
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Persian,
You should tell him that I got the "skill hack" from Mark4's advice: click the banners! =] But then in the first game my recon got lucky sometimes. Like... a wandering vulture glimsping 4 dropships and 4 valks with no detection in the middle of the map.... owns. |
| #26 Dino Din (port-34-26.access.one.net)[16944] |
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| hope you enjoyed watching your BWForum opponent Doom... heheh best of luck man, and great BR |
| #27 Silent Strike (121.freehold-01-02rs.nj.dial-access.att.net)[16961] |
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Hmm.. good report.
Am I still the only terran to beat Mark on Dire? :-) |
| #28 Mr.Newbie.2.u (sdn-ar-001inindiP258.dialsprint.net)[16962] |
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COME ON!! I almost beat Mark4 Z v P (of course him P) and HE BARELY WON! come on! LoL and i only ladder high 1100 - low 1200. And he clames he had a bad game? I just owned his dragoons and templars. He got me though with the archons, couldnt broodling them =*( see ya
I bet i can beat mark on Dire My terran > almost all toss |
| #29 T_Mac (on-tor-blr-a58-01-629.idirect.com)[16966] |
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| I own too right persian? I beat newbie terr vs terr.......... Mcnastys high with terran is around 1250 or 1275 i think. Good br too, toss owns |
| #30 Persian-POW (proxy1-external.rdc1.az.home.com)[16967] |
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| Of course you own too T_Mac, but you don't count anymore since you wasted $30 on porno rather than buying a new Brood War CD. |
#31 (strangers.bragg.ar[16971] |
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This game was pretty close. That first 4 tank drop killed a few buildings, including my extractor, and fifteen plus probes. I lost another 15 or so probes with all the attacks on the bottom right expansion too. It's funny how NM gets such an overwhelming advanatage in the early game against me then gets his ass handed to him once we hit mid game. It's like a pattern.
The thing is that most of the toss NM plays have no idea how to fight terran. Most Ladder players think there are only two races. But I was raised up fighting Johnny_Vegas, Heartcutter, and other nohunters players who have high level terran play.
NM thinks we'll face each other in the bwforum tourney, but I'm not so sure I'll make it that far. Persian or Tmac, whichever one wins, has a good chance vrs me.
Silent had some very good terran on Dire. He just naked expanded faster than I could even think about interdicting, and had air control to the point the early game was very frustrating. Guess that's why he's in the top twenty for the kali 1v1 ladder. =] |
#32 (relay.atinc.com)[16977] |
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I think AQD3 did better vs Newbie McNasty than Mark4 did... Mark4 is just some random flamer afterall. *wait*
Oh yeah, they're the same person... DOH!
I'm glad someone is good enough to "put the Newbie in Newbie McNasty", he sounds like a pretty good player. |
#33 (relay.atinc.com)[16978] |
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Oh yeah, and remember, there are many ways to climb the ladder... I am 6-1 with an 1156 ranking or so... How you ask? Play people of similar ranking in a 4 way ffa and win 6 out of seven of them.
Tips for FFA ladder... NEVER play 3 people on a 4 people map, if you end up in between them, you lost. Period.
Anyway, my point is that ladder rankings are deceptive, even when they are legitimately earned.
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| #34 <font color="blue">GameOverZ</font> (bess-proxy2.mveca.org)[16980] |
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| <font color="red">Good report. But i have to tell you : imo dire sucks. I just dont care for it. Ppl can seem to go reaver really fast while not taking a risk either.. Hrmm</font> |
| #35 Blank (243.hartford-10-15rs.ct.dial-access.att.net)[16986] |
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| Woot? |
| #36 shockwave (exchange1.sensable.com)[16988] |
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Good BR. In both Mark4 vs. NM games, NM executed what I thought were high-success-rate early-game strats that you'd only know after playing the map to a good level of familiarity with that race. An early offensive tank push against Toss on Dire is often a game-winner if he sets it up right. It's in many ways worse than on a land map because the units a Toss player is likely to be focusing on during island (corsairs, reaver, dragoons, occasional DT) just are poor counters for entrenched tanks+turret+bunker in early island.
Mark4, I can't believe your corsairs got killed by a valk...what is this world coming to...? I assume you started on armor upgrades immediately after that ;-). |
| #37 Ioti (205.168.7.49)[16989] |
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| Other than the fact that I'm apparently made boring :-P by this report, good job. BTW, I was playing LittleThreaT. We played a ZvT game (me zerg) on Rivalry. Still haven't finished it yet, actually. Damn him and his stupid SV irradiate raids. He killed like 8 units with one SV until I finally threw some scourge up its ass. Right now I think I've got him contained to the upper and lower right starting points for bases, but I need to formulate a plan for storming his damn turtle defense. I'm sure he's got plenty in the bank too. I hope I see him on later tonight so we can friggin' finish it. :-) |
| #38 LittleThreaT (207-172-36-228.s228.tnt6.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com)[16995] |
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| I've been lookin for u Ioti! We must finish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| #39 TheRubberDucky (dfiatx100-044.dsl.gtei.net)[16997] |
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just surround his basses with scourge and send about 6+ in every nw and then to get any wraith/valk he tries to make.
Queens for bling tanks, ensnaring marines, defiles to plauge bunkes. Very easy to counter terran turtle with zerg=] |
| #40 DoomDragon (port8-32.gettysburg.desupernet.net)[16998] |
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Thanks for the support and praise, everyone, and for the high ratings, raters. I seriouly though i would get something like a 7 or so on this, seeing as how it is my second BR, and i didn't really put any effort into my first one. Just think, if i had text wrapped my pictures...!
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| #41 NewbieMcNasty (lake.library.pitt.edu)[16999] |
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Ok, let me say a few things:
first of all, I'm not 1350 Terran unfortunately, just 1288, under the name demogorgoni (you can check at ladder search forum if you want).
Now, my main problems were the same as the first game, I can't complete the job. Here were my main problems:
1) dt detection: I didn't get SVs early enough AGAIN. My first 4 tank drop was stopped by just dts.
2) needed more factories: I only had 2 going at my main, and I probably needed 4.
3) needed more armories: I only had 1, and was trying to get both air and ground
4) needed faster expanding: Instead of attacking mark's expansions, I should have established one of my own FIRST, then attack, because now Mark couldn't both stop my attack and kill my expansion at the same time.
5) saturate expansions: I needed to get scvs rolling. I didn't have nearly enough scvs.
Still, they were both VERY good games. Mark4 does a good job by not teching to carriers too early, and has good temp control. Still, I am out for ANOTHER rematch.
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#42 (strangers.bragg.ar[17001] |
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| I haven't made carriers in the past hundred games or so... I just don't think they are quite as good as most people think, and they can get you killed if your timing is not right. To my mind, carriers are what you build when you already won and don't feel like thinking while you finish someone off. |
| #43 Persian-POW (proxy2-external.rdc1.az.home.com)[17008] |
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| Mark, about the tournament, Excal changed the brackets so now you and McNasty are in the same bracket and also T_Mac dropped out. So, you won't get to beat me or T_Mac until the finals. |
| #44 TheRubberDucky (dfiatx100-044.dsl.gtei.net)[17009] |
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| Mark4 u dumbass. You played me under Aqd3 once and had about 3 carriers, one of them which I built and u mcd 3 times=] |
| #45 TheRubberDucky (dfiatx100-044.dsl.gtei.net)[17010] |
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| and that was like 2 weeks ago |
#46 (1Cust24.tnt15.atl2[17014] |
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| It lost you that game didn't it? MCed carriers don't count! I said "made" not MCed. |
#47 (relay.atinc.com)[17125] |
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Mark4, NewbieMcNasty... if you play a rematch, and I'm there, I'll BR that if you want. I like that there are genuine bad feelings involved, or at least, there were at one point.
Mark4 is right about carriers... sometimes I make them when someone is carrying me in a 2-2 and my bad Macro has allowed me to stockpile enough resources for 6 stargates and a beacon. |
| #48 Ioti (205.168.7.27)[17258] |
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| What exactly do you DO with 600 minerals and 7000 or so gas, BTW? I've seen it happen, it's happened to me, and I really don't know what you're supposed to do about it. |
| #49 <img "/images2/n_fls.gif">[17321] |
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That's easy.
Terran: build SV/ghosts
Protoss: build templars
Zerg: build queens/defiler/scourges/guardians |
| #50 Ahzarelly[91772] |
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| Hahaha. I doubt that someone will steal my last comment on this br. But then again, I doubt I will ever check this out again =/. |
| #51 Furious[132873] |
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| Fool!!!!!!! |