| #1 Drefsab[26538] |
| rc47.Rmax1.globalsite.net |
Now this is my kind of report... :-)
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| #2 Executor[26539] |
| cache4.ihug.co.nz |
| Damn it second comment :( |
| #3 Mogalin[26541] |
| cgowave-0-225.cgocable.net |
<font color='Ffcc00">This is bootiful =D
I can definitely tell he was a newbie, but most newbs follow a specific "vs. Terran" b/o...
DT rush
DT Drop
Reaver Drop
Carriers
He missed the two crucial stages, the drops! Raar</font> |
| #4 Mogalin[26543] |
| cgowave-0-225.cgocable.net |
<font color="Ffcc00">This is bootiful =D
I can definitely tell he was a newbie, but most newbs follow a specific "vs. Terran" b/o...
DT rush
DT Drop
Reaver Drop
Carriers
He missed the two crucial stages, the drops!
Oh, and d'oh |
| #5 Sp|nE[26544] |
| dialup1752-pri.voicenet.com |
| Funny =] |
| #6 ~Talon~[26550] |
| cx110054-a.pwy1.sdca.home.com |
| HAHAHAHA! |
| #7 SCV[26556] |
| c3-1b137.neo.rr.com |
| Terran/protoss rushes in 1v1 blow against toss, so...damn, i love you. |
| #8 T_Mac[26558] |
| ts7-45t-40.idirect.com |
| Wow, you won......... |
| #9 ScvTheDestroyer[26564] |
| spider-we084.proxy.aol.com |
IS THIS WHAT STARCRAFT HAS BECOME!?!?!?!?!
4poolbarracks!
well at least people aren't 4poolplyoning.
and since when does 7 uncloaked wraiths kill 2 carriers without losing 1??
ummmm did he have the +4 interceptor upgrade?
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| #10 JSH[26568] |
| pmroch3-22.rconnect.com |
| Doh! Drefsab plants his flag on the new planet of Ladder Newbieland. I must begin reporting again immediately! |
| #11 SleeperAgent[26569] |
| CWIP-T-005-p-107-37.tmns.net.au |
| Drefsab is a newbie basher! Hahahahahaha! |
| #12 Fractal_Wave[26573] |
| 24.64.215.34.bc.wave.home.com |
Drefsab is my hero! (also a reporting machine)
All the best,
Fractal_Wave |
| #13 Drefsab[26576] |
| rc44.Rmax1.globalsite.net |
Quick comment to SCVDestroyer...
I lost <i>1</i> wraith...
Dref |
#14  [26579] |
| spc-isp-van-58-04-147.sprint.ca |
| heh this is funny |
| #15 Fox^1[26598] |
| www-proxy.service.digital.com |
Marine rush turns into Wraith rush. Take this Protoss bastard. Your awesome.
Fox^1
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| #16 DeBo[26601] |
| squirrel.dur.ac.uk |
| Well done on beating that hater and writing a good report. |
| #17 DeBo[26602] |
| squirrel.dur.ac.uk |
| Well done on beating that hater and writing a good report. |
| #18 DeBo[26603] |
| squirrel.dur.ac.uk |
| Well done on beating that hater and writing a good report. |
| #19 VeNoM~Sage[26610] |
| 139.oakland-05-10rs16rt.ca.dial-access.att.net |
| I'm pretty sure that Carriers are actually the goal of any 950- toss ladder player. Everything else is consitered the "Preliminary Stage". |
#20  [26624] |
| strangers.bragg.army.mil |
Holy Crap! (sends telepathics message back in time to the toss player calling him a complete newbie)
Geesh Dref. When I start playing ladder my first game is always against a 1500 player carving his way up.
I have had a sub 1000 ladder score though. Right when I started playing again after a two month deployment. And switching from zerg to protoss. And drinking before I laddered. It was mostly the drinking that did it =]. Friends don't let friends reaver drop drunk! |
| #21 UrineAvenger[26625] |
| jeames.csw.L-3com.com |
| I can't believe you stood up to the dreaded Carrier Rush! He was obviously an expert and you just dodged a bullet, Drefsab. |
| #22 Barage[26631] |
| dialup-63.210.75.163.Atlanta1.Level3.net |
would explain why the dts weren't sent to kill; it's not right to kill someone with anything except 4+ carriers. Notice how for many, ANY OTHER ATTACK is considered a rush and thus wrong? Apperently carriers are suppost to be the only attack unit. For the zerg and terran, they are suppost to just sit back and lose :P
I can see how 7 wraiths kill 2 carriers, but 1 loss? They didn't have the +4 upgrade yet...no way.
After several posts about how some player got 2 scvs, 3 marines, a medic, and a bat to stop a lurker rush cold or the like, it's nice to see how people who even I can beat *cough* play. |
| #23 CPEBach[26653] |
| sw2.swlaw.com |
The strat about the terran/toss equivalent to the 4-pool comes from Montaro's article about Terran tactics over on the GameGuru site.
Lucky win for you. If he made more DTs, he would have stopped you cold.
My personal favorite newbie victim on the ladder was this game I had where my opponent made
NOTHING but DTs (and 1 zealot). Problem for him . . . I was Zerg.:-) |
| #24 Drefsab[26655] |
| rc105.Rmax2.globalsite.net |
That's right, Montaro's article, I remember now... that's the one where he talked about what a godly player he was... :-)
I might need to go back and read that again because arriving in a protoss main base with only 6 marines when he already has a citadel warped in can't really be considered equivalent to a 4 pool like Montaro said. I definitely made a boo boo somewhere.
I definitely deserved to lose that game.
Cheers,
Dref |
| #25 Addity-X[26661] |
| px1he.ss.wave.shaw.ca |
Dunno how montaro does this terran rush but i do it with rax on 7 and 8 with a depot as soon as you can afford it afterwards.
That way you can still afford to scout, the thing with this is tho, you MUST attack as soon as you have 4 marines, and bunker him in. Otherwise his supirior econemy will take you out(if he's any good). |
| #26 UrineAvenger[26664] |
| jeames.csw.L-3com.com |
Drefsab, would you please post a new BGH strat abou the 4pool marine rush?
Seriously, liky addity-X I use the 7 and 8 rax, 9 depot but that's not even close to the time for a 4 pool. I think a true *early* terran rush would have to be 4SCV's, rax at 150 minerals, 1st marine to scout, attack at 4 marines. NO DEPOT, NO EXTRA SCV's. It would be interesting if someone would try that & report their results, because I agree with you Dref, if he has a citadel warped in then you're not doing a rush on the same level as a 4 pool. a rush like this would really have to be 3-4 marines in his base about the time his first zealot appears.
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| #27 Addity-X[26670] |
| px1he.ss.wave.shaw.ca |
I never said this was equal to 4 pool
it's just a really cheesy rush that will take out ppl quite well espec. if you place barrakcs in the middle of the map so it doens't take long to get to their base
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| #28 Addity-X[26671] |
| px1he.ss.wave.shaw.ca |
rax on 5 AND 6 might be quick enough to stop 4 pool, but i think that's just a little TOO rough on the econemy
btw i doubt 1 rax on 4 will be as effective as two raxes a little later
4 pool only works with zerg cuz u can build 6 zerglings as soon as the pool is done
you would have to wait 6 times as long with 1 barracks to get the 6 marines to stop it(yes i know you could take the 4 pool with 2 or 3 marines and scv but some ppl cant micro that well) |
| #29 Lieut.Mac[26675] |
| dial209-35.star-telegram.com |
OMG Dref, when I saw the title of this report in the list I panicked: "NO! He reported my horrible beatdown." Thank goodness it wasn't about me tho. I would've been embarrassed. Oh well, that's what I get for not going goons & observers against terran. Anyway, you're welcome for the win...looks like you needed it = )
Now I'll go read the report and then come back and comment on how funny it was |
| #30 Drefsab[26676] |
| rc105.Rmax2.globalsite.net |
| 5 and 6 is definitely too early... I have no idea what I was thinking. On a 4 player map, if you rush, you need to scout. I'm sitting here waiting for my 3 mining SCVs to mine 50 minerals so I could build a marine... it was torture... I almost quit right then :-) |
| #31 ProudToBaNewbie[26698] |
| proxy1-external.avnl1.nj.home.com |
OMG!!! This is the epitomy of coincidinks, but i played that same guy today :) he was toss again i random'ed zerg .. apparently your a hacker if 7 hydras can kill 2 cannons .. but whatever, I liked the report, very humorous
- The Newbie who is proud |
#32  [26832] |
| a1-1a052.neo.rr.com |
Heh. I have as hard a time winning games when I'm in the high 900s and 1000-1050 range as I do once I crack into the 1100s. Lower games are annoying in that you dont always face usual strats. My last 4 games have been PvP (I thought I'd take a break from Terran) and either I seem to kill them in 10 minutes or I don't make enough cannons to protect myself from dt's before I can get my first observer out. Ugh. Nothing's more annoying than outresourcing someone 13k-10k and losing because he fragged your observatory.
I also lost to a ZEALOT rush in one game. I think he built his first gateway on 8, and I went double gate on 12, and the endless stream of 1 or 2 zeals at a time just ever so slowly wore me down and I finally slipped up on probe micro. Sigh. Back to the drawing board. Also had an amusing offensive cannon done against me, but he built it at the base of my ramp, then proceeded to build his gateway, cybercore, robo fac there, powered by one pylon.. which I could hit with goons from high ground! ROFL.
Ladder. It's.... different. Btw, I've played 16 games now (9-7) and I haven't been disced on once yet. In fact I think I've played over 100 ladder games and only have been disced on twice. I always check their record before I join a game. A little longer to find a game, but it's worth it for me. |
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