| #1 Mep[104436] |
| A040-0065.PHL2.splitrock.net |
| 1st. |
| #2 2nd[104438] |
| hhce10.0ce.singa.pore.net |
2nd
the replay link does not work |
| #3 Hathaway[104439] |
| ppp-206-170-29-78.wnck11.pacbell.net |
2nd. or 3rd. or 4th. or whatever
VERY good, detailed writing, sweet format (love the borders and images), offering enlarged pictures is a nice touch. No alt text, no humor, but still sweet :) Unfortunately the games were rather short.
9 |
| #4 somnolent[104444] |
| 61.171.85.22 |
like the writing...lacked a little humor, but it was very informative, even if you didnt' have the pix, i got the plot of the games. work for a little more interest.. :) great thou... definantly a 9
91326832 |
| #5 NotDefault[104445] |
| h24-83-95-176.vs.shawcable.net |
| 6th and I read it too :) |
| #6 -zX-Ravage-[104446] |
| 12.230.6.29 |
| cool ^^ |
| #7 NotDefault[104448] |
| h24-83-95-176.vs.shawcable.net |
(continued)
The thing is, I can't really rate it, because the report didn't grab my attention. The writing was not anything special, although it stated the facts, it didn't do much more for me. The graphics were slick but not eye-catching - and having the pictures thumbnailed is actually a detterance, as I prefer having them integrated with the report. Because of those factors, I read through the 1st game almost before I knew what was going on - the introduction was not long, and unless there is something there to catch my interest, I tend to gloss over it, unintenionally of course. After realizing that I didn't really "read" the first game when I read it, I attempted again. But I just can't do it. Everything is so short and concise, and just doesn't grip me.
(to be continued) |
| #8 NotDefault[104449] |
| h24-83-95-176.vs.shawcable.net |
(continued)
So I can't rate it, since I also passed over the 2nd and 3rd games in a bit of a daze. Sure the report looked professional, but I really don't see why reading the report is much better than viewing the replay.
Since I would really like to make some constructive criticism instead of saying the report just didn't work for me, here it is. In the report, it would be nice if there was something that would make reading the report preferable to watching the replay. As it is, there isn't really much of a reason. You don't say why the players do anything, but merely what they do. There isn't humor in the writing. Nothing is shown other than screenshots of things you could easily see in the replay. So why read the report?
Sorry, I'm probably just in a bad mood today :(.
NotDefault |
| #9 Cer1dan[104450] |
| h24-81-28-90.ok.shawcable.net |
aye, i must agree with NotDefault, but i can summarize a little. The report bored me, there was no humour and i could tell why something happened, only that it happened. Some words were used too often such as "proceeds". I cant believe I am saying this but there was too much description in some things, it bored me. You need enough description to sweeten the writing but too much or too little will make it boring. Anyways, as NotDefault said, there wasnt anything in this report that would make me prefer it over the replay.
Cer1dan |
| #10 Hathaway[104453] |
| ppp-206-170-29-78.wnck11.pacbell.net |
| At least it's better than poor humor, or migraine-inducing color/font choices, or a bunch of bad links :) I still think it's excellent for a 1st BR. |
| #11 Napoleic[104455] |
| px2ht.ok.shawcable.net |
I liked it, good effort, especially for a first. Some people prefer to have the whole pic instead of a thumbnail link. The writing was extremely concise, basically leaving out some of the meat of a report.
It was kind of like reading a replay I guess you could say. |
| #12 Triped[104456] |
| 63.85.132.17 |
| I liked it...narratives > replays imo |
| #13 Furious[104457] |
| bal-ts3-2500.tpgi.com.au |
| I think NotDefault hit the nail on the head with his comments! |
| #14 .HeeroYuy.[104458] |
| 195-57-80-172.uc.nombres.ttd.es |
There was no funny comments or nothing cause the players type very little in a game.Btw nice report.I know 1k-jin that abuser.
~ciao |
| #15 [SM]Strega~F[104461] |
| proxy4.senet.com.au |
Looking at it, it seems like a great report - but then you look at the scroll bar. 3 games fitted into that small a space and, even worse, the text didn't even span the entire screen.
NotDefault got it right with the fact that no interest was gained from this report. Also, the games appeard to be complete utter beatdowns.
The thumbnailed pics were highly annoying (why would I click 40+ damn thumbnails when other reports have collages nicely integrated?). That many pics should equal the scroll bar being nice and tiny, with 80% of that being text.
6
Strega |
| #16 Mindthief[104462] |
| ci31571-a.nash1.tn.home.com |
Top Position=12 0'clock
Left Position=9 O'clock
Bottom Position=6 O'clock
Right Position=3 O'clock
Its easier to describe them this way then the other way, aka left center and stuff, just say 9. |
| #17 CTretina[104466] |
| cn278945-b.bens1.pa.home.com |
| Please refer to the forum for my response to many of the above comments... |
| #18 BOBBY357[104467] |
| spider-wk034.proxy.aol.com |
pretty good! the writing was not bad, yet reshreshing, because of how detailed it was. pics werent that great though, and the replay link didnt work, but overall, it was very descriptive and well written, although the games werent the best. nice job.
8. |
| #19 CTretina[104468] |
| cn278945-b.bens1.pa.home.com |
| I just tested the "Download Replay" links myself, and all three appear to function correctly. Please explain with which one(s) you are experiencing a problem so that I might repair said link. |
| #20 WilliamWC3[104470] |
| cc29488-b.twsn1.md.home.com |
I read your (rather lengthy) forum post, and then checked out your report. Then I read your comments.
As for your observations on post 1.08 br-ing (although I havent done any myself) I dont completely agree. I think an abreviated style is much more useful now, but I think you miss part of the essence of this site. This site is not solely about browsing replays / finding out who won what games / strategies etc. It is also a community which enjoys sharing humor, sc related graphics, etc.
Anyway there is more than enough room for consice useful brs, as well as long image heavy humorous community reports. Personally I like your style and would encourage you to write more.
|
| #21 WilliamWC3[104471] |
| cc29488-b.twsn1.md.home.com |
Dude.. these comments look pretty good to me. Not everyone is going to like your style. And none of these people are raters so you cant really expect them to be consistent with the official ratings of other reports. Anyway, seems to me a lot of people really like your style, so I'm not sure what you are upset with.
GAH insert this in the blank space i left
fuxing 1000 chars |
| #22 Spuzz[104472] |
| di152.opencominc.com |
Nice work, very professional. I enjoyed your writing although it was a bit too dry. I think the fact that the games were short is what kept me reading; that is to say if the report had been one long game I believe I would have lost interest halfway through.
As it is, though, you've written a very enjoyable report. Hope to see another by you!
Spuzz |
| #23 CrackHeadJeb[104473] |
| mu-196093.dhcp.missouri.edu |
Very professional. Good job.
-CHJ |
| #24 Thunder.[104474] |
| host-216-77-220-127.fll.bellsouth.net |
You are an excellent writer, however, in battlereports people
aren't looking for phrases and stuff like "constructing yet another blockade near the ramp leading to DS-Sanity's starting location" I mean... damn.. just say "Made another containment infront of ds sanitys base" cuz.. its just BORING.
and humor.. i like humor.. i dont bother to read reports without humor......... but fer some reason i couldnt stop reading yours... the only thing i didnt like about your report was the annoying use of all those descriptive words and the perfect words n such.. if you know what i mean.. like "resource node","hive cluster" etc. well i guess its only me but that kinda stuff just annoys me. |
| #25 Thunder.[104475] |
| host-216-77-220-127.fll.bellsouth.net |
its also funny how everyone who commented on this tried so hard to have perfect grammar. i dont know why, perhaps they were trying to show that they arent dumb? weird.
monkey see monkey do? wow its so annoying to see all these guys who type like normal ppl just type with PERFECT grammar just to look special or somethin... I mean im not a retard.. but damn ppl, be yourselves. dont try to impress anyone. O.O |
| #26 Patton1944[104476] |
| spider-tf063.proxy.aol.com |
Well, I liked it. Great for 1st report.It lacked humor and had a few things here and there(The length), but I think it was a great 1st attempt! Keep improving, and who knows...you could be the next YourRoleMo...errr...Mark4.
There can only be 1 YRM -.-. Easy 7-8.
P.S:Hey .HeeroYuy., we got robbed;)
"You want the meat? Microwave the dog...you heard me..."
Patton1944 |
| #27 |||l||||ll|||||[104479] |
| cdm-66-6-171-tylr.cox-internet.com |
| pleasing, you should pick better games and include a little more detail in my opinion |
| #28 ~FatAssReaver~[104481] |
| SHW58-44.accesscable.net |
| Nice look, though a little dull. A bit more descriptive, and a bit more excitin'. That is all. |
| #29 Thunder.[104485] |
| host-216-77-220-127.fll.bellsouth.net |
heyo. dont want u to think i didnt enjoy your BR. cuz i did.
I usually read every br unless it just gets boring. this one kinda got boring but what you lacked in humor you made up with your words. lets see some more from you? maybe a bit longer and just1 game? :) |
| #30 OnSlaughT[104486] |
| proxy1-external.pr1.on.home.com |
You complain for more battlereports. Then when they come, you bash them down because they didn't make you laugh. I don't think you guys know exactly what you are looking for.
Personally, I think this is an easy, no-brainer 9, but that's in my opinion. It's evident the time and effort has been put into the work, and the descriptions were clean and concise. I can't find much wrong with it, only than it was "too professional". |
| #31 Napoleic[104488] |
| px2ht.ok.shawcable.net |
| plz don't listen to Thunder. Good grammar and good word usage is definately a plus. |
| #32 Twip[104489] |
| port-00.gall-ts1.cloh.net |
Well, the comments section isn't quite as negative as I made it out to be in my reply, but still...
Your report lacks personality. It's a nice text version of the replays, but that's all it is. |
| #33 Testicular_Pugilist[104491] |
| 65.102.188.165 |
I have to say that visually, the report was excellent. However, I found that the writing was, quite frankly, really boring. Not to say that humor is absolutely necessary, but it does help to hook the reader in. The writing wasn't bad, but a little more detail into each of the games would have helped a lot. Overall, I'd say experiment with different writing styles for a while. I give it a 6.
Up Over and Out
-- The Puncher of Balls |
| #34 LuckyNewbie:P[104492] |
| dialup-64.156.34.39.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net |
| Who the hell are you ball fondler |
| #35 katome[104495] |
| h24-82-14-88.ed.shawcable.net |
games were alright... but like the writing, rather compact for my tastes. the writing and in line order (which as already has been mentioned looks exactly like the original Blizzard reports) make it quite boring though. 7
granted though, it was very clean and professional, no noticeable mistakes and no confusion; excellant first report. I could name people who've written 5+ worse reports. |
#36  [104496] |
| user249.net128.va.sprint-hsd.net |
well im glad i finally got around to reading this one, and yea it was pretty damn unique.
your writing style was pretty cool for a change, and let me get through these quickly. the problem was, the games didnt live up to the style u used. if i were going to write a report where i focus on displying strategies and presenting games, i would do 2 things differently:
1 - give more details. i dont feel like i got a solid feeling for their strats without specifics like BOs.
2 - get better games :[. these games were all fairly bad and totally 1 sided.
next time, just get some better games!
the presentation was superb. i loved the sleek professionalism of the pic borders and crisp, miniaturized shots. i didnt mind having to click to see big pics, i sorta like how i had the choice of which i wanted to see
8 |
| #37 Testicular_Pugilist[104499] |
| 65.102.188.165 |
Well, bro, it didn't appear from the BR that the last game was a "...surprisingly lengthy campaign." Personally, I think it would have been better to put that into the BR along with a little more detail about what exactly happened. I agree with the good Dr. If you're gonna' write a BR that's supposed to help people understand the strats, etc of good players, than put a little more detail.
Up Over and Out
-- The Puncher of Balls |
| #38 NotDefault[104502] |
| h24-83-95-176.vs.shawcable.net |
Er, I just want to clarify my comments earlier. Although the style doesn't appeal to me, this is an Amazing first report. Yes, I have now lost my grammatical highground (or whatever .Thunder was talking about) but I mean that amazing with a capital A. Easily one of the best first reports I have seen out of anyone.
NotDefault |
| #39 NotDefault[104504] |
| h24-83-95-176.vs.shawcable.net |
Also, I'd just like to add a couple things to #45 :). I appreciate your attention to clarity of writing and politeness in your posts and comments, as it makes you look more professional than some other reporters with reports that were criticized. In addition, there is one thing I would recommend you do with your next report that should not sacrifice your style in too major a way.
Analyze the strategies of the combatants. The ins and outs of strategic play are not obvious to every viewer of a replay. At least stating what the players are trying to do gets you far with those (such as me) who do not have a wealth of strategic knowledge. This is one thing that I get out of a battlereport that I'll never get out of replays as they stand.
NotDefault |
| #40 CrackHeadJeb[104506] |
| mu-196093.dhcp.missouri.edu |
er, I don't mean to be so confrontational, but it's important that you stop idiocy like that early on. Being a good battlereporter won't save you here if you are a huge lamer. (i.e., Ling-erie)
If your roommate did that while you were away, it's cool.
-CHJ |
| #41 [104508] |
| 202.188.200.91 |
| uh... how old r u CTretina? u seem so... professional |
| #42 -zX-Ravage-[104509] |
| 12.230.6.29 |
| #47 gg ctretina |
| #43 cAsPeR...[104511] |
| spc-isp-tor-58-18-192.sprint.ca |
| lol |
| #44 Napoleic[104513] |
| px2ht.ok.shawcable.net |
snag
how the heck did you find that CHJ. You have a list of IPs written out by your monitor or something? |
| #45 CaughtNaked[104515] |
| 205-222-90-182.mcps.k12.md.us |
| wow really good, i found i was just reading the text and not staring at the prt pictures. good writing good format, only thing wrong is that 2 on the links to the reps didnt work :{ good report though |
| #46 obviously not DivvyO[104518] |
| lsanca1-ar20-4-60-046-066.vz.dsl.gtei.net |
Jesus christ you n00b, get a life and report better games. Fuck. Why don't you put more dick and fart jokes in your report? It's bland bitches like you that make me strive to load up as many gay jokes as possible in my report, because gay jokes are funny!
;D |
| #47 simeon2000[104521] |
| healthdes-dsl |
CTretina: Don't let it get to you. I've been lurking at BR.com for a while, and your style is refreshing (albeit a bit conformist with b.net), but there's a few folks who come here more for the homoerotic humor than the story of a contest between two good players. Your style will not cater to that crowd.
Like its already been said, just do your thing and let the cards fall where they will. I thought you did a bang-up job, even though I myself was shocked to find no humorous ALT text ;)
I pesonally enjoy your style AND the more humorous style. I even like the fanfiction-ish stories. Regardless; keep up the good work, get longer games to report on, and don't apologize so much :) Best of luck. |
| #48 l.y_iON[104522] |
| CPE0080C6F81712.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com |
Nice layout. hehe, really like the pictures, been better if you put the text to a regular text to a different colour to seperate it from white.
Nice report, nice pictures, but not that interesting games.
I thought 1k-jin with is groovy 14-0-0 ladder (1506) would at least pull of something that was gosu... guess i was wrong.
That guy talks 2 much shit. |
| #49 CrackHeadJeb[104527] |
| mu-196093.dhcp.missouri.edu |
nah, I don't have a list of IPs by the monitor. When I see a new face, though, I stare at his IP for a few seconds so it becomes part of his name in my mind. That's how I figured out that =o on the forums was Ling-erie, despite Ling-erie not posting for several months.
-CHJ |
| #50 -zX-Ravage-[104530] |
| 12.230.6.29 |
#54
Dude o.O The flame even had proper grammar/punctuation..
That's just disgusting ^^a |
| #51 Prester John[104531] |
| 137.187.48.255 |
Yeah, the reports were all short, but there was a cumulative value to them, since all three were ZvT, and they showed 3 different strategic approaches to the matchup. I would have liked more focus on specific points of strategy, though. I don't feel you took full advantage of the chance you had to do a little ZvT clinic with this series.
The format was nice. The writing was a tad overdone in a few places, but overall good.
|
| #52 .OpZ.[104587] |
| d3o57.telia.com |
| Thats how a br should look like! Nice pics, not positioned i the text but in the margin... very pleasant to read. Tnx ~ |
| #53 CTretina[104604] |
| r126165.res.Lehigh.EDU |
Well, obviously, I'm very disappointed with a six, Drefsab. While I clearly see and respect your points, I cannot believe that this battle report warrants a six when some other very mediocre reports receive sevens and eights.
In my humble opinion, you rated my battle report based only on its shortcomings and on your personal dislike for the Blizzard Entertainment style of reporting. I am sorry if I sound frustrated and/or displeased, but in this case, I actually am. |
| #54 [104615] |
| h24-81-28-90.ok.shawcable.net |
| it does deserve a 6 CTretina, if you noticed, its because the BRs at Blizzard are dry and boring that he dislikes them. Your supposed to rate a report on its shortcomings ect. Like my latest report, it got a 7 and it was text only, didnt look professional and I got some tips to improve my next one which will be out soon, however, i am remaining with my text-only report because if i got a 7 with text-only, my writing must have humour, description, tell the battle well and can still emphasize what strategies were used. |
| #55 Cer1dan[104616] |
| h24-81-28-90.ok.shawcable.net |
continuing on above comment...
Yours was dry, lacked detail and humor, now let me remind you that detail has nothing to do with description, detail is missing like when they teched and stuff like that, surely the games lastest much longer than it seemed, you stated that with your style, your attempting to emphasize on strategies however without a starting build order or a sense of timing we cannot get to that said strategy. And btw, its not always how it looks, but what it contains, and your contained nothing but dry, boring, overly described writing, sorry if this offends you, but its true. |
| #56 EMS[104631] |
| nabrown.vassar.edu |
Hey my cousin goes to Lehigh, wait the coincedence is too great, Gretchen is that you??
EMS
How come you never talk to yer cousin if it is... |
| #57 EMS[104632] |
| nabrown.vassar.edu |
Sorry for the Oddity and stupidity of that post,
EMS |
| #58 [SM]Strega~F[104635] |
| proxy8.senet.com.au |
Something I learned the hard way (from Dref too!):
There are many different raters because these people are respected members of the br.com and NH community. They also have different tastes, otherwise what would the point of having multiple raters be if they all gave the same rating?
Raters are supposed to rate what they think the report is worth and, as raters, the poster has to respect their decision and take it with a grain of salt. It really doesn't matter what you think your report is worth, it only matters what the raters think it is worth.
You got an 8, then a 6. The two raters who did this are both different people, so a different rating is practically expected.
Get over it.
Strega |
| #59 ZerG~LinG[104669] |
| p432-071.ppp.get2net.dk |
personally i agree with dref and Notdefault, and i cant see how anyone can give this a 8 :O well fuck it.
Oh and btw, CTretina, go and read DiviouV or whatever his name is, there you can see both a nice description of the report, and some damn funny shit. |
| #60 DivvyO[104670] |
| adsl-64-175-111-36.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net |
| He already did, see comment #42 on my report ;D |
| #61 CTretina[104673] |
| r126165.res.Lehigh.EDU |
| Apparently, ZerG~LinG, you've gained quite an ego as a result of your inflated ratings. Would you care to play a series of games sometime so that I might "bring you back down to earth?" |
| #62 Alex[104681] |
| nic-118-c8-60.mn.mediaone.net |
"I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is to try to please everyone."
|
| #63 Cer1dan[104687] |
| h24-81-28-90.ok.shawcable.net |
i dont see how he has gained quite an ego, seriously, i cant see how anybody gave this an 8 either, its worth a 6, and thats at the highest simply because of the dry boring writing, i have read ZerG~LinG's material and his rating don't always reflect what it really should be but his reports are better than your because his writing is not...empty.
Btw, i dont see how playing a series of games with him is gonna "bring him back down to earth", your basically stating out right that your better than him and that you can beat him, it appears he is not the one with an ego, its you. |
#64  [104692] |
| ct91955-a.richmnd1.in.home.com |
| Haha, feel the power of my big rater stick... :D |
| #65 SarcasticSage[104724] |
| 207.157.58.60 |
The good: I like the professionalism
The bad: Not enough meat and personality
The ugly: : Just too one sided, i never d/l replays so i won't know the truth unless its fully told in a report.
Anyways good first reports.
-ciao |
| #66 ZerG~LinG[104780] |
| 212.237.49.61 |
ego...me? OMG JUST BECAUSE I ROCK UR ASS =)
well i never calimed that i was a good player, nor did i say my reports rocked ur's or anything.
Sure i would play ya, its what SC's about right?
And it seems to me that you are the one with a ego problem. |
#67  [104796] |
| dhcp024-166-066-049.neo.rr.com |
I immediately noticed the striking resemblence to the BR's that Blizzard produced. I never really liked them that much as compared to the quality BR's here, because they always sounded so dry and dispassionate.
Basically, if this was a movie, I'd walk out not thinking that I totally wasted my money, but I wouldn't go back a 2nd time either. You can obviously write, it's just a question of developing a style of your own that draws the reader into the story that you're telling. |
| #68 SCV~007[104973] |
| h155n2fls33o984.telia.com |
"When I see a new face, though, I stare at his IP for a few seconds so it becomes part of his name in my mind."
Rofl. |
| #69 Tripps[119890] |
| far-c-24-158-196-80.chartertn.net |
| Nice... |
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