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#1 {DD}Fatboy[134886]
adsl-64-171-188-121.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
Wow, amazing. Incredibly gripping, it's 3:00 A.M. now and I just spent the last hour and a half reading this. I'm too tired to make any deep comments now, but wow.
#2 no[134887]
68.112.198.78
and on the next episode of 7th Heaven, Timmy falls down and hurts his elbow while we continue the love life travails of this other angsty teenager.

I didn't read the whole thing, I read a few paragraphs from the beginning and a few paragraphs in the second part. Its almost like a bad teen movie (as opposed to a good teen movie... wait that doesn't exist...). The writing is advanced high school english class stuff (but thats okay because its still above most of the other writers here).

I am not entertained. I am not "gripped" as #1 put it. its 6:45 am, but my attitude will be the same later on today. I find the characters despicable and apparently brain dead, including the one that is supposed to be you. Obviously the target audience here is for young hormonal teenagers and misanthropes who can get a good laugh at other peoples misfortunes.

continued...





#3 no[134888]
68.112.198.78
....continued

If this actually is true (obviously it isn't, as the only people who would actually openly tell people things this personal are pathological liars who want attention) I hope you have an excellent future, which will undoubtly be in the trailer park with your little girlfriend and your 6 brainless kids.

I don't mind that it really has absolutely nothing to do with 99.999% of the other stuff on this website. Probably my favorite "br" here is CynicalMagician's Dodging the Parabola Fish. But that story featured something I can't find in yours, namely wit and humor.

Go find jesus or something and stay off of my front porch.





#4 Vash[134891]
adsl-61-29-223.mia.bellsouth.net
gg #2 and 3

well, ill say that this one is a little better since it starts off with some anal... but it all goes downhill from there once again. Listen you want to avoid shit like this you have to learn to TREAT WOMEN LIKE THE SUB HUMANS they are. You cant give them the time of day, let alone those three words that will ruin your life. yea i know it sucks but its not your fault, ITS THEIRS. also i dont think its such a good idea for you to post such personal info here. i mean, i guess you could count the sex as a kind of competition. But other than that this isnt a battlereport or a fanfic, and this isnt lifetime.com. Tell this to your shrink. Also when writing a sexually graphic br (which as you might see in a few weeks i have no problem with) you might want to get a bigger vocabulary, so you can make that whole "cumming in holes" paragraph a bit easier to read.

#5 Vash[134892]
adsl-61-29-223.mia.bellsouth.net
also some pictures would be nice.
#6 THE FAG[134895]
pool-68-161-59-28.ny325.east.verizon.net
hmm i guess no. 2,3 are the people i agree with. it is too personal, all the sex and stuff. It does get boring near middle, but what can i say? like i said before, smaller text please! good job though. i don't know about u taking pictures of that stuff. this stuff is very unique. congratulations, your a good writer though! I guess you should post more, i would read it ;p
-THE FAG
#7 No Avail[134899]
c-24-125-24-83.va.client2.attbi.com
lol @ vash's #5 comment



#8 Sovereignty[134901]
wsip68-15-45-159.ri.ri.cox.net
This was....awful. I can't really describe it any other way. The writing was 9-10th grade level, and the plot was probably worse than that of Pulp Fiction 2. Every other sentence included sex or getting drunk. You really need to work on your plots, and decide what really needs to be in there and what doesnt. As #4 said, if you're going to make a sexually explicit paragraph, dont make it sound like you're a 14 year old talking to your buddies at lunch.
#9 SiX5532ONE[134902]
client-151-198-243-110.qdx-it.com
Seriously....B-A-T-T-L-E-R-E-P-O-R-T-S.

Come on people...

#10 Chris[134904]
astound-64-85-237-118.ca.astound.net
Hey author.

Do you hear that?

Its the sound of the world not caring.



#11 k2o4[134909]
12-253-6-239.client.attbi.com
fatboy, thanks. it's always nice when someone gets it.

#2, i hope you don't watch 7th heaven. that's a great way to waste your time.

vash i wasn't trying to make the sex the focus. every time i have put emphasis on the sex in a story people here at br.com complain that it's too sexual.

#8 i don't get why the most common thing i hear at br.com (and never seem to hear on any other websites) are comments about the level of my writing being "9-10th grade level." Why do you see it like that? Because it's simple?

#11 comments like that usually root from jealousy...

I'd like to ask one other favor of anyone reading this that i forgot to mention in the begining. If you could tell me how far you actually got (finished it, read first submission, first paragraph, first sentence) i'd appreciate it.

Thanks

Peace
-kaOs




#12 Kane[134910]
12-233-180-134.client.attbi.com
I wonder if Vash will grow up before he ends up like "shallow hal"
#13 Kane[134911]
12-233-180-134.client.attbi.com
Mr. Kaos, good authors who use simple words know how to use them well. Even "Narnia" had this poetic flow of words that streamed off the page and planted images into your brain. Raar. You can use any words you want, but if you cant use them well, people will always call you a 10th grade level writer
#14 Conviders[134912]
Toronto-HSE-ppp3660712.sympatico.ca
Narnia kicks fucking ass!
in case yolu haven't noticed, this is BATTLEREPORTS.com NOT gaystoriesthatinvolvehopelesslypatheticcharacters.com
#15 -101st-Garand[134915]
cache-mtc-aa01.proxy.aol.com
As I said in part one, you are a pathetic loser. Not only a pathetic loser, but a pathetic loser who gets stoned and drunk and steals things and has sex like a rabbit AND is in therapy!
Boo f*cking hoo. What gets me, is the fact that you spent a REALLY LONG TIME typing this out. You write a very,very long story on how sad your life is, and you live in a basement. Why? Because your room holds too many bad memories. My god, get over it. I think I know the one paragraph that sums this all up:
The one where the condom broke, but you tried to do it in the butt,but since you were drunk/stoned, you managed to get off in the wrong place (Well actually, I don't think that's the WRONG place) only to succeed in making her cry the next day and getting a morning after pill.
#16 -101st-Garand[134916]
cache-mtc-aa01.proxy.aol.com
I'm not done yet!

I want some actual BattleReports, damnit! That being said, despite the fact that you're a loser, the story wasn't that bad. I read a few paragraphs from each part, and it was okay. So what's my score?
+8 for writing
-3 for length
-2 for sexual detail we don't need
-2 for being a loser
+2 for no pictures. Really, I don't need to know what you look like.
#17 Nafarias[134917]
216.169.198.9
As an adult with a loving wife, great kids, a good job, no substance addictions, and a strong set of moral values, I see absolutely nothing to be jealous of in the story. It is a tale of young love, but it lacks anything uplifting. Love (twoo wuv!) isn't marred by such purile shenanigans as the protagonists (quote unquote) here are having to deal with. This is a couple of kids who don't know what love is screwing their lives up. Read whole thing - though I skimmed past the naughty bits where too graphic.
#18 -101st-Garand[134918]
cache-ra03.proxy.aol.com
Nafarias said what I forgot to put in my comment. You, sir, have no moral values what-so-ever. Starting your 'relationship' with a lie is never a good thing.
#19 striz[134920]
24.102.187.224
despite the flames, I did enjoy that story, even though the font was huge and the sex was overplayed (or vice versa =p)

you need paragraphs, and a little more flow to your writing. It was often hard to read, and seemed to jump too much. And yes, it did seem fake.

+8 for plot
-1 for realism
-4 for writing style
-2 for glammarizing destructive habits
+2 for your fics. I generally enjoy your writing, and its usually pretty well done.

next time though, use the forum.

striz
#20 no[134922]
68.112.198.78
New topic: Parenting.

If we assume this has some truth what exactly does this story say about the parents of these moronic children.

And I hope no one blames the mainstream media. I believe parents are responsible for restricting and/or putting the things their kids see on tv in proper context. Now I am not a parent, but goddamn two monkeys could raise a kid with more common sense than k2o4 here.

An aside: Nafarias, are you by chance christian? I don't want a religious discussion but I am simply wondering when you used the phrase "moral values" if you were implying "christian values".
#21 Nafarias[134923]
216.169.198.9
Just as a P.S. don't take my comments as a 'flame' per se. If you are serious about actual WRITING then you are going to have to get used to some pretty hefty criticism. Far deeper and more brutal criticism than what I've levelled. A story has to have a 'point' (preferably a good moral one), and to be perfectly frank this story has no real point. It just plods to an unsatisfactory ending and no growth or learning takes place. That is assuming this IS a story (we all hope). If it is NOT a story then, quite honestly, the persons involved really do need serious help.
#22 k2o4[134924]
12-253-6-239.client.attbi.com
kane, thanks for that explanation. i hear you on that.

101st garand, thanks for the scoring. i appreciate that.

nafarias i'm surprised you're a family man. from your first comment i was thinking "high school freshman who is hittin puberty late"

Peace
-kaoS
#23 [134925]
12-253-6-239.client.attbi.com
Striz i wrote a comment in regard to yours but for some reason it didn't register.

thanks for the scoring and reading it. it helps to see what you thought about different aspects of the story. i agree about the paragrpahs, and when i wrote it in word i used 1.5 spacing and indents for each paragrpah, bu that didn't translate over to the web well, and i wasn't sure how to fix it other than going through and adding another space at each paragraph, and i didn't want to go through that.

also, as for realism, i get that a lot. people never believe the things i write, even when they're actually true. actually, my made up stories are always more believed than my real ones. i guess i have just lived a fucked up life that people don't understand.

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#24 k2o4[134926]
12-253-6-239.client.attbi.com
as for all the "these people need mental help" comments, i guess i did a good job of showing an unstable point in my life. i can't really take offense to them because i was pretty messed up then.

nafarias, about the fact taht i will have to deal with criticism if writing seriously, i know this. don't worry, i'm not crying from what you said. strangely for every flame i've gotten here i've gotten a fan somewhere else. either way i'm together enough to keep writing no matter what any of you fuckers say. and i say this with a smile on my face.

about the parents issue, i think that all the shit that went down has actually better prepared me for life than other peoples childhoods, and i don't think any of the parents in this story are bad ones.

thanks for the comments, even the idiotic flames. the reason i posted here is to recieve as many different views as possible, even the haters.

Peace
-kaOS
#25 kane[134930]
12-233-180-134.client.attbi.com
#24, theres a limit on the amount of charachters you can put in a comment but it doesnt show up anywhere. don't ask why
#26 Nafarias[134931]
216.169.198.9
NO: Yes, I'm a Christian, but that has nothing to do with 'moral values' as a statement. Morality (in a universal sense) is almost the same everywhere you go and there isn't a place on earth that wouldn't look at the persons described and say, 'these people are messed up'.
KAOS: If you are serious about writing then be double sure to pay heed to the advice about structure and flow. Your writing has some visceral emotive impact (very gritty) but lacks cohesiveness and the jumble doesn't help your work.
ON PARENTS: Good parents are pure gold. Treasure them. That said, some kids manage to screw their lives up perfectly despite having stupendous parents.
#27 Monty Pylon[134933]
pool-138-89-167-9.mad.east.verizon.net
My question is, which came first the drugs and booze or the story. Did you get wasted on four pounds of weed, a case of beer and three bottles of Jack, sit down and write this? Or did you write this, saw how bad it was, got wasted and then thought it was a brilliant piece of shit that needed to be post? And another thing, where the fuck is Ana and Dino Din and every other flamer who needs to trash this garbage. And I know you're going, "well look who's fucking talking Mr. Fan fic", but I never put out something that seemed like a collaboration between Kidd, GoZ and Iggy on three tons of crack. If you're gonna put out a fic make it good and about a game. If its not about a game, at least make it a good read and not some itteligence insulting piece of shit like this!
#28 Monty Pylon[134934]
pool-138-89-167-9.mad.east.verizon.net
I mean intelligence. Damn!
#29 Alacrity[134935]
cache-ra03.proxy.aol.com
wtf. I found this story more entertaining than anything you ever wrote Monty.
#30 k2o4[134936]
12-253-6-239.client.attbi.com
and you used to be nice to me monty, and i used to be nice to you. but that was long ago...

Peace
-kaoS
#31 k2o4[134937]
12-253-6-239.client.attbi.com
ah i know why i remember you being nice, cause i used to actually read your fanfic stuff when no one did.

Peace
-kAoS
#32 Monty Pylon[134938]
pool-138-89-167-9.mad.east.verizon.net
Ha, this is like a bad episode of Springer turned into a soap opera. It's put together so sloppy and monotone that it has no real interest beyond, "yeah I nailed her in the butt while stoned, I drink me beer". An attempt at drama spoiled in the fact that the story doesn't really go beyond a "I see spot, see spot run" simplicity. That and it would appear the use of paragraphs or spacing isn't needed in todays day and age. Just one big cluster fuck.
#33 Monty Pylon[134939]
pool-138-89-167-9.mad.east.verizon.net
And yes, I used to be nice as did this site once. But things fucking change. This place use to be fun and open, but now its too political. All the big names left and it seems like you got too drag a rater out these days. People still don't like fan fics, but if something like this that goes so far out for attention and shock value is glorified, then fan fics do suck.
#34 striz[134940]
24.102.187.224
...and they claim that video games aren't our downfall.

some quotes seem apropriate:

'We are the people our parents warned us about...'
-Bumper Sticker

'Procrastination is a lot like masturbation - its just dandy til you realize that you just fucked yourself.'
-Unknown

'You have the coordination of a beached whale!!'
-Kipawa 2002

(no relevence, just thought you'd like them. I think these comments need to be a bit more light-hearted, or be dropped =/)
#35 LameJoker[134943]
ip-209-23-0-10.modem.logical.net
ahem, I believe the "Unknown" quote was from me? (or something similar...)

As for the report, you should write for a soap opera. Believe it or not, millions of people would absolutely love this type of story, and would be willing to sacrifice 1/24 of their day to watch/listen to it.

<rant>I believe that the story is a microcosm of today's sex education. Underage people believe that a condom can protect them (reinforced by "they're gonna do it anyway" mentality). It is true that condoms generally protect what they cover, but STDs can be transmitted to the female even with protected sex. Drugs and liquer just make the problem so much worse, because you are obviously not in your senses when stoned/drunk.</rant>


#36 ComicGenius[134944]
ip-209-23-0-10.modem.logical.net
however i'm no repub so...
#37 k2o4[134946]
12-253-6-239.client.attbi.com
monty i'm sorry you missed the explanation about the paragraphs, and i'm sorry you're so bitter.

Peace
-kaOs
#38 Andris[134947]
cache-ntc-ad01.proxy.aol.com
Dear god what is with all this talk about sex, just the fact you mention it about 20 times(?) makes it obvious you never had any, second the whole thing overly emotional, story of the drama teens, thirdly do me a favor, chop off you're fingers (i dont care how you do it, but i recommend asking a trusted friend, or bitter enemy, or ask me) so that the world can never again be cursed by you're sinful and crappy attempt at a peice of dramatic story.
good night
P.S. chop chop
#39 Nafarias[134949]
66.237.84.143
Well - I hesitate to discourage any budding writer so chopping is too severe. I'd recommend the minor punishment of slamming the fingers in a car door, and then some grammar courses, and a refresher in structure, theme, plot, and (of course) the fine art of an actual story climax and denoumont.
#40 -101st-Garand[134952]
cache-mtc-aa01.proxy.aol.com
Quote:
"about the parents issue, i think that all the shit that went down has actually better prepared me for life than other peoples childhoods, and i don't think any of the parents in this story are bad ones."
*wonderflame powers, activate!*
No shit. Your parents aren't to blame. It's YOUR life that you're messing up with your substance abuse and rampant naughty things. That being said, HOW THE HELL are you better prepared?! You think getting stoned/drunk and having unprotected sex will make your life better? HA! I'm going to graduate very soon, and believe me, I'm more prepared for the real world than you are.
I think you lied about some things. Most people that have sex don't talk about it and throw it around like some junior high kid. Even if you did, you didn't need to give us the details.
You're still a loser </endflame>
#41 -101st-Garand[134953]
cache-mtc-aa01.proxy.aol.com
Okay, one more thing before my bitching is complete.
You say that when you had sex, your girlfriend was 15 years old. 15! She's still a baby, son. Why don't you atleast wait until your naughty parts have fully grown?
#42 k2o4[134954]
12-253-6-239.client.attbi.com
ok, 101st, you have no idea what you're talking about.

you're graduating from what soon? Middle school? eat my shit, if you end up doing better in life than i do i will come personally be your slave. but seeing as that won't happen i'll just laugh whenever i do hear how you turned out.

i'm not gonna get into a pissing contest with you, but unless you have an amazing record of accomplishments then it's most likely that i've already done more intersting and worldly things in my life than you will be able to ever accomplish.

continued..
#43 k2o4[134955]
12-253-6-239.client.attbi.com
i'm guessing the main reason you think i lied is because you haven't had any of those experiences and you don't know the reality of them. don't talk shit about things you don't understand.

as for her being a baby, we were both babies. i was 16, she was 15, and we had no idea what we were getting ourselves into. there were a lot of strong emotions there, even if they were pretty baseless, and that's what i was writing about. but, despite being babies, we were both physically as mature as we were going to get. Both early bloomers. I met up with jen for the first time in a few years recently, and she is physically still the same as she was back then. i haven't grown an inch taller. so fuck off.

Peace
-KAoS

PS, how much gayer can you get than "wonderflame powers activate" ?
#44 k2o4[134956]
12-253-6-239.client.attbi.com
although some of you are complete idiotic fuckers, you have produced some funny ass comments. I think they could make a feature on their own.

Peace
-kaoS
#45 ScotTt[134959]
128warp179.newtel.com
This guy was writing about a teenger who was drunken on love and muddled by puberty. So the fuck what? Every single human being goes through puberty, and you guys act like you're all ashamed of it. I happened to enjoy this, and I liked it because I took a positive view on it. You guys were obviously bent on not liking it from the get-go.

#34, the reason this site is going to shit, if it's actually like you say, its because of people like you who flame the shit out of aspiring writers, not the raters.

I like Kaos, for turning to our community to share a heart-felt story and for standing up to this bunch of backstabbing fucks. Good work Kaos.

Bye,
Me
#46 ScotTt[134960]
128warp179.newtel.com
PS. Kaos I read the whole thing, you said you wanted to know
#47 Crazster[134962]
202.130.72.230
I read the whole thing.
I stayed an extera 2 horus ont he comp to read it.
This is a frickin memory, and it doens't have to have a climax, just a point.
IT was goo, i liked it
I was willing to read it and not say "Oh fuck a fan fiction, let me flam and trash it."
and guess what he made a fan me. You fucking perverted flamers, you pls write something this good and i will personally piss all over you, if not i will crap all over you. Jesus some people
very good
#48 2e722[134963]
bbcache-232.singnet.com.sg
Hmmm.... Somewhat dramatic, eh.

Im wondering what happened in the end? did you get back with her again? Anyways....GW...don't get dishearted, those people can't produce things like this. =)



Peace
#49 Nafarias[134964]
216.169.198.9
This is some nice intelligent discussion of literature here. ;) A suggestion for some of you - though it may require stoking up more than one gangleon... Frequent swearing is neither a mark of manliness, nor a substitute for actual meaning. The occasional swear word - used artly for comedic effect - can have a limited place in writing. The blunderbuss puking of swear words multiple times in every sentence merely displays either a lack of vocabulary or marks you as a boor. If you want to discuss the writing seriously (and be taken seriously) then the dialog needs to move up from the gutter.
#50 Nafarias[134965]
216.169.198.9
And I'm a bit curious, Kaos. You mentioned that you felt this experience prepared you to live in real life more effectively. Could you elaborate on that claim? In all honestly, I can't see how such experiences would prepare anyone how to live in real life effectively except as a cautionary example of what to avoid.
#51 SiX5532ONE[134967]
client-151-198-243-110.qdx-it.com
Oh yeah, and Butt-Sex = Gay.

Even with a chick. Just a humble opinion.

#52 Chris[134968]
169.199.140.249
I feel like I'm reading essays instead of comments, but good work anyway.

Guys. He's full of shit. Stop asking him reasonable questions.
#53 DarkRider[134970]
198.134.2.2
Excellent.
Just spent the last 55 minutes reading this.
Very entertaining.
#54 ScotTt[134971]
128warp179.newtel.com
#50...you're right, I wasn't swearing to incorperate wit into my comment. I was using it to express my distaste and anger towards those who flamed Kaos without meaning.

I don't usually curse, and I know that's not something alot of people in this comment section (and this site) can honestly say. If you have a problem with cursing, I suggest you don't read the comments section, or the forum, or, hell, anything online anymore because thats what goes on. You're not going to be able to alter that, so learn to live with it.

Bye,
Me

P.S. FUCK SHIT COCK PISS ASS BITCH WHORE SLUT

;)
#55 Nafarias[134972]
216.169.198.9
#55: Being an unapologetic boor isn't a virtue. Neither is excessive cursing justified simply because other people are unapologetic boors. It is also illogical to suggest that someone not participate in a public venue merely because they mention that it is both possible and desirable to elevate the discourse. If one person accepts these simple premises then they were electrons well-spent.
#56 ScotTt[134973]
128warp179.newtel.com
Hehe, I love you too Nafarias. Im sorry I swore in your godly presence. THERE I FUCKIN APLOGIZED OKAY?

Lol....Naf....your command of the english language is sexy....*sighs in admiration*....

Lub,
Me
#57 alacrity[134974]
cache-ra03.proxy.aol.com
stop trying to sound smart you stupid jackass.
#58 Nafarias[134975]
216.169.198.9
Lol - not looking for an apology 57. Just look at it as a friendly reminder that good english, common courtesy, and the internet are not mutually exclusive. The anonymity afforded by the internet makes some people feel that it is not necessary to be courteous or even civil when engaged in a discussion. Perhaps I am uncommon in the practice, but I feel all people would be better served if they treated people in an electronic conversation with the same respect and decorum they would in real life. Were we all in a room together, such discourtesy would be intolerable.

#58: I never try try to sound smart. Such an effort would imply that I wasn't.
#59 k2o4[134976]
12-253-6-239.client.attbi.com
second alcrity's comment.

Scott thanks for the kind words. I'm glad you could get down with the story and enjoy it.

Crazster, thanks also. I knew that through the crowd of idiots some good folk would push their way through.

23722, thanks for the encouragement. Dont' worry, i've come to expect flames from br.com. And flames from these guys aren't that bad. It doesn't bother me that they're stupid.

DarkRider also, thanks. You read quick. Takes me like two hours to get through that big block of writing. heh.

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#60 k2o4[134977]
12-253-6-239.client.attbi.com
Nafarias, a couple things. Just because you can use the more 'sophisticated' and larger words doesn't make you smarter or better.... You asked how that experience better prepared me. Well, you nailed part of it. It gave me a good idea of what not to do. It also gave me a lot of experience with the so called 'underbelly' of society. Btwn 7th grade and 11th grade i spent most of my time around drug dealers and 'thugs' and skaters and punks and booze and drugs and slutty woman and trashy houses and bums on the street and jails. First it's given me a different perspective on the world than i would have had if i just lived th expected suburbia life.

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#61 k2o4[134978]
12-253-6-239.client.attbi.com
Secondly, i've gotten through the partying and troublemaking stage of my life when it didn't matter as much. A lot of kids (which i can swear to because i have watched it) get started with that stuff after high school, especially in college. They fuck themselves when it really matters. Also, as for illegal activities, it's better to get your taste of them when you're UNDER 18, so that when you do get caught you don't go to real jail and have your life ruined. You can do those bullshit programs and still have a chance to get places in life because your life hasn't really started yet.
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#62 k2o4[134979]
12-253-6-239.client.attbi.com
So, you ask why i think i'm better prepared? I think i've lived a lot more and experienced a lot more than most and i'm only 18. You guys all think that because i did that shit i'm living in a trailer and lying around drunk and high. I'm actually going to a small private college that is very hard to get into and i haven't smoked weed or gotten drunk in about 1 year. I stopped hardcore partying two years ago. I drink at business engagements, mainly when i'm out of the country because it's legal there. You don't fucking know me and you assume that anyone who parties is doomed for failure.

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#63 k2o4[134980]
12-253-6-239.client.attbi.com
And i said your comments stem from jealousy. You said what do i have for you to be jealous of? I think that i lived a teenage life that while you were that age, you were wishing you could have. An exciting one. Congratulations on the family, but i'd expect a father to be less of a rude brute. I will pray for your kids.

Peace
-KAoS

ps, that was so quick to write but it ended up taking so much damn space...they need to make these comment blocks longer.
#64 [134982]
216.169.198.9
(1) Proper language doesn’t make one smarter, just courteous. (2) The comments on experiencing the underbelly interest me. So people who experience depravity are granted a better perspective of it? I would say it is better not experience such things at all as you don’t have to walk in garbage to know it stinks. (4) I never admired what you suggest. I felt sorry such persons (not in a condescending way) as I knew deep down most of them were miserable, and had a row to hoe ahead of them. I was taught that wickedness never was happiness - only happiness sold for quick pleasure. Your story confirms it. (5) Thanks for the prayers. I endeavor to provide my kids with the stable home and teachings to avoid what you got a load of. If you meant the prayers as protection from a rude brute then consider them pre-answered. :)
#65 k2o4[134983]
12-253-6-239.client.attbi.com
*tips hat*

Peace
-kaoS
#66 Mcneal[134984]
x137-159-132-181.auto.pepperdine.edu
I just read every one of those comments, and i read the story.

To make assumptions about this mans life off of one story is folly. To say he had bad parents, or to say that his psychologist was incompetent is a mistake. THis is jumping to a judgment before having all of the facts. And you know this isn't right.

And if this story is real, and this man isn't doing these things anymore, then who's to say that it didn't better his life. Do people not grow through experience? How do you learn? I've heard it said that to reach the top you have to hit the bottom.

And nafarias, the big words don't make you seem smarter, or more of a man. and the cuss words are fantastic scottt.
#67 Nafarias[134985]
216.169.198.9
If he takes what he experienced and uses the hard knocks to avoid such things in the future (and helps other avoid them too) then more power to him. Evil can be turned to good, but that does not somehow ennoble what was done. And big words naturally do not make one smarter, or more manly. However, courtesy does make one more of a man. And the converse of your statement also holds true. The use of large words and/or proper language does not make anyone less of a man, or make them incorrect, condescending, or mean. Suggesting that others avoid crude language does not make a person wrong either.
#68 Vash[134987]
adsl-61-31-24.mia.bellsouth.net
im gonna over look the fact that this shit doesn't belong on here and say this: the fact that you're dumber when you're 15-16 doesnt mean you have to go about screwing things up this much. I was in a highly sexual situation when I was that age too but becuase I used my head (the one on my shoulders) I had all the fun with none of the hassle. my advice lay off the drugs they really dont do anything beneficial. Except beer. Beer is a food group.
#69 2Cautious[134995]
adsl-68-72-92-94.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net
The Comments Section's burning! The Comments Section's burning! Look yonder! Look yonder! Fire fire! Fire fire! But we have no water...

Anyway, read comments & the story. I personally liked it, even if it wasn't WarCraftIII. Anyway, on the issue of whether having this sort of life prepares you, I'd say that it depends. If you see the light & why this is bad, then you (might be) less likely to get involved with this sorta stuff. However, if you, um, don't see the light, you might end up stuck with it. Or, if you say, got addicted to the drugs, that would be bad. One could look @ it like an immune system (either you die or you get anti-bodies)...
#70 [135000]
128warp179.newtel.com
Intelligence, folks. It's what sets us apart from the apes. Our imagination and smarts is what we rate each other on. Those with intelligence are revered, and granted certain exclusive rights that others do not have. Why don't others posess these rights? Because the intelligent people say they don't. For those of us (me including, rest assured) who aren't all that intelligent, I think it is important to use a person who has posted on this comments section and displayed an emaculate show of intelligence as an example.

Nafarias.

#71 [135001]
128warp179.newtel.com
Nafarias is of a special breed of men. He weaves his words magicaly so that no one understands what hes saying. They just sit in awe of his towering IQ. Such illustrious statements as "Lol - not looking for an apology 57." Display his way of structuring sentences into flowering speech. I'm not quite sure poor old #57 was seriously venturing an apology, but Mr. Nafarias acknowledges him as if he was, and #57 was humbled by his awesome presence.

#72 [135002]
128warp179.newtel.com
A second activity Mr. Nefarious is allowed to indulge in is discreet bragging. A phrase that represents this habit follows: "I never try try to sound smart. Such an effort would imply that I wasn't.". WELL THEN! At first I was awed by the flashy shininess of these two sentences, but after hours of close analytical thought I realized that he was implying that he's intelligent! So intelligent, infact, that it would be a crime to try and sound smarter because he's already a genius and actually THINKING about what hes saying would demean his Holy Brain!

#73 [135003]
128warp179.newtel.com
Please, dont be outraged by these few advantages given to people like Nefarious. Hes doing more than you know, mainly flaming us and telling us how to live our lives. Without the Nefarious's in the world, who knows what horrid things would go on? We would maybe even be writing battle reports without fearing people tearing them apart! WE LOVE YOU NEFARIOUS! OH GOD DO WE LOVE YOU!

Bye,
Me
#74 ScotTt[135004]
128warp179.newtel.com
Whoops, the above 4 posts were made by the Nefarious-fearing me.
#75 striz[135010]
24.102.187.224
keke @ Scott vs Nefarious.

I think fucking up bigtime is one of the best ways to benefit yourself. Believe me, I know that much. After the fact, you're left with the choice - grow up, or hit the gutter. That choice only comes to you once, and what road you take will undoubtedly effect the rest of your life. For all the fucking stoners out there who think that being mature = being stoned, you couldn't be more wrong. Growing up is about having a good time, and learning from it. Its a cliche, but you have to learn to fall before you learn to fly.

To all the flamers, don't make like this story SHOCKS you. it may be unnecessarily graphic, but if he wants to write, then so WHAT? If you want to bitch about life lessons, you've got to know both sides of the issues you preach. Dare I say it - you needed to be there to understand.

...my two cents. Kaos sure likes his comment section =D
striz
#76 Andris[135011]
cache-ntc-ad01.proxy.aol.com
since you challenged my input i have a few words for you kaos, just the fact you keep replying to all these people shows what a fucking nerd you are, you need a life, furthermore shut the hell up i know your full of it you're story is not only crap but its far from the truth, and whatever i dont really care go die.
#77 -101st-Garand[135014]
cache-ra03.proxy.aol.com
I still don't see how you're better prepared for life. I'm graduating from high school, thank you very much, and my GPA has managed to get me a spot in the Air Force Academy, so bite me.
#78 SiG.[135017]
adsl-34-80-240.mia.bellsouth.net
Dictionary.com is our friend!
#79 2Cautious[135018]
adsl-68-72-174-124.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net
Just a guess, but my interpretation was that, while it wouldn't work for everyone, experiencing the "bad" side of life made him want to stop before he got too involved, or, instead, got involved later. Do correct me if I'm wrong...
#80 LameJoker[135020]
ip-209-23-0-204.modem.logical.net
hmmmmmm.....fascinating 'report', if only for the response it has garnered (keke) in this section.

I have (T) I sinking feeling (I) that I know both the (M) author of this story and a main participant (E) in this section, Nafarias. I could be wrong though....

Odd that you never meet these strangely common family-man gamers, who have a prestigous (keke) job and an affluent(keke) position in the community, but never deign (keke) to reveal themselves. MAYBE it's all just one person.....



#81 ComicGenius[135021]
ip-209-23-0-204.modem.logical.net
O yes. I will say it once more. May I direct your attention to the top of the screen, where you will find, in large, bold, beige letters, the name of this site.

BATTLEREPORTS.com
#82 k2o4[135022]
12-253-6-239.client.attbi.com
if i'm a loser for replying then so are you, and you even more so because you should have no investment in this, especially if you hate the story. so you, please, go die. thanks

Peace
-kaoS
#83 k2o4[135023]
12-253-6-239.client.attbi.com
101st i'm doing at least as well (i'd say better but lets not get into that) as you and i've had those other experiences also.

I'm not trying to say that everyone should go out and get drunk and high and have unprotected sex and rob and fight and just be wild. That's not the point. I did all that and now i don't. Am i not allowed to write about it? Some people get into that world and never leave it and sink... i didn't.

Peace
-kaoS
#84 Nafarias[135028]
66.237.84.138
Now, a few of you here could take a page from ScottT. If you are going to take the time to insult someone, then do it with class and style! :) Not only does it avoid the crass and unnecessary usage of profanity, but is also a LOT more entertaining to read. His usage of sarcasm and some deft hyperbole are much more interesting than just blasting away with the f-bomb. Sort of like watching "Frasier" compared to watching the Osbornes... ScottT belabored it a bit more than good sarcasm calls for, but high marks for the effort and a bonus for no profanity. :)
#85 {DD}Fatboy[135031]
adsl-66-124-233-109.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
Nafarias, fuck you. suck my cock. cunt.
#86 Nafarias[135032]
66.237.84.132
Well, at least Fatboy is more cogent than the New York Times or the entire country of France... ;)
#87 Crazster[135034]
202.130.70.149
both strats of insulting work.

Ok k2o4 pls write somore i wanna read somemore.

Oh and fo all the idiout out there that can only read the url
then let me help you a bit. If you read around this site a bit you will notice that they state more then one that THEY ACCEPT ANY TYPE OF REPORT. What next nog irls on the site?
And naf u reall suk, you think that your better then us when ur really scum, with no ball.
and u can not judge his life from a 2 hour story, if you think you can ......ur just sad

naf pls just die
good work fatboy

:D
#88 Nafarias[135035]
216.169.198.9
Can't say as I can recall judging his 'entire' life, or saying I was better than 'everyone' here. It is a common error in online discussions for some debators to make sweeping assumptions based on scanty evidence. Read again and target the criticism more accurately.
#89 Roaddog[135041]
CPE013439904868.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com
14 year olds should not be making comments (Comment 88 comes to mind)
#90 ScotTt[135046]
wiley-71-1883.roadrunner.nf.net
Sup road. What do you mean 14 year olds shouldn't make comments? It's an open COMMENT section, anyone can COMMENT, even those who can't spell and they're incoherrent.

Also, are you insinuating that 14 year olds can't spell, or are incoherrent? I'm 15 and I think I get my point accross just fine.

Please think about what you're going to post before you post it. I think a comment like "#88 learn english" would be more appropriate.

Bye,
Me
#91 2Cautious[135048]
adsl-68-72-174-124.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net
Go #91! I'm 15, too, but I was perfectly capable of making coherent comments last year!
#92 striz[135065]
24.102.187.224
I'm 14.

at least I havn't started ranting about society, air force academy, pedafiles and everything that's wrong with the word (#76). Nef, grow up. And kaos, while your story entertained me, I think these comments are what is known as 'flogging a dead horse'.

I hope when I'm 15, I'm just like Scott. He's my idol. =p

striz
#93 LameJoker[135070]
ip-209-23-2-17.modem.logical.net
I don't hate the story. I think valuble lessons can be drawn from it. I mearly point out that this is battlereports.com. I believe that when the makers of this site wrote that any type of report is acceptable (if indeed they did) they meant that any type of BATTLEREPORT was acceptable, meaning you could have a simple narrative (as is in most reports), a first-person view of a BATTLE (I would not consider this to be that), an interactive BATTLE, or anything related to a Real-Time Strategy BATTLE playable on a computer (or on N64 for all of those afflicted with SC 64).

I am 13, and I know many, many, adults who cannot write coherently (keke).

Yes, parenthesis own.
#94 ComicGenius[135072]
ip-209-23-2-17.modem.logical.net
What does cogent mean?

I would argue that, yes, I do (and others, particularly the administration of this site) have an investment in this story. While I do not particularly mind this type of thing (though it does aggreve [keke] me), this type of story could very well drive members of this community away from this site, who believe that this site has become a waste of time. This abandonment would lower the amount of hits the site would recieve, thus making administration think that maintaining the site is a waste of time, thus depriving me and others of the pleasure of coming here and reading quality (though it has decreased of late [keke]) battlereports.
#95 striz[135073]
24.102.187.224
LJ, I cannot understand what you just said. =o
#96 LameJoker[135074]
ip-209-23-2-17.modem.logical.net
It aggreves (keke) me that this would appear on this site, not the story itself. (SAVE)

A no-girls ban would be IMPOSSIBLE to enforce, so even if it were a good idea, it is an odd thing to bring up.

Saying that we would go from a ban on this type of story to a ban on girls is like this:

"HUH if we can't loot and burn at WTO meetings, what's next? The First Amendment?!?!?!"

This is an overstatement, but you get the picture.

I like debating people keke.
#97 LameJoker[135076]
ip-209-23-2-17.modem.logical.net
I can't see why not striz keke? =o
#98 LameJoker[135077]
ip-209-23-2-17.modem.logical.net
well striz basically i said that this is not a report in any way and it does not belong on dis site even tho i kinda like the story itself k?
#99 k2o4[135078]
12-253-6-239.client.attbi.com
i don't disagree with the fact that this doesn't really belong here. it doesn't. it's not a br of any sort or kind. it isn't a fanfic. there are no spaceships or alilens or anything of the sort.

I have been posting these things in the forum and plan to keep posting them there. this was just a one time thing. i wouldn't have even considered this a year or two ago, but these days things aren't as busy or dedicated to br's as they used to be. video killed the radio star and replays killed the battlereporter. kinda.

i have noticed some strange writing on here though. i think it was keanu_reaver who had a different story up. i guess it was ok because it was still sci fi ish, but seeing as things have been leaning differently i didn't feel so wrong posting this as a br.

but mainly i posted it cause it was too long for the forum and the readers there.

and i agree, these comments are some crazy horse flogging.

Peace
-KAoS
#100 Nafarias[135081]
66.237.84.142
Flogging dead horses (metaphorically) can be enjoyable and educational. The fine art of discussion is all about taking a subject and exhausting every possible angle. What is wrong with that. And I grew up a long time ago Striz (physically and mentally). I remain a robust 17 year old attitudinally though, and I don't see the need to change it. Perhaps when you mature physically and mentally you will reach the same conclusion. ;)
#101 Crazster[135082]
202.130.70.6
First off, pls define a fan-fic.

second of alli can write so it is readble it's just that i didn't have that much time and quickly posted my messages .

Couple of things, first off exhausting every angle is a good idea ON TOPICS THAT ARN"T AS STUPID AS THIS ONE.
Second off you thoguth the sotry was long please, this comment section will soon surpass it.

Coherrent enough for you?

Naf do not lie you percieved a sweeping assumption and you kniw it, whether that is what you thoguht is another matter, but what you presen ted suggested you did.
#102 ScotTt[135083]
128warp179.newtel.com
94 (and 95, i suppose): If the admins find this sort of things unacceptable, then why isn't it deleted? You're right, it has nothing to do with a battereport. It doesn't resemble a fanfic. So what could it be that seemingly ensures its survival?

Let us make reference to a spectacular reporter, whom in the past this site has known well. I suggest you go to the search engine and type 'Drefsab' in the authour search. Drefsab wrote MANY reports that, well, had nothing to do with a video game and were widely accepted. Did the administrators, who created this site, delete them? Nope. They admired and praised him for his work, and anxiously anticipated more of it.

#103 [135084]
128warp179.newtel.com
Battlerports.com is an open site. Its okay that you don't think this report should remain or be allowed, it's okay if it doesn't fit your definition of fanfic, either way it and more of its kind in the future are here to stay.
#104 [135085]
128warp179.newtel.com
Nafarias,
I don't see you as a robust 17 year old. You speak of providing a stable home for your family, debating topics from and infinite number of views and delinquent teens.

Nor do I see you as mentally mature. You didn't start off discussing this matter with the matured air of a mannered debater. No, your very first comment, #11, was:

"This is either (A) a terribly written piece of pure fiction with almost no literary or social value or (B) the real-life story of a juvenile delinquint who seriously needs the services of a competent psychologist..."

#105 [135086]
128warp179.newtel.com
This was a harsh, deraugatory remark, you swiftly judged Kaos with little to no fact. Only when you realized there were souls as competent as you and who saw through you on this comment section did you change your tune to a more open view. Maybe you have a little more growing up to do.

#102, I agree with you on this comment section being horrendously long and also about Naf. And as I suggested to another on this site, I will make this statement: "Learn English!" Lol jk...I realize you were pressed for time.

Bye,
Me
#106 Nafarias[135092]
216.169.198.9
I stand by comment #11. If fiction, the story was terribly written from a technical standpoint and has no social/literary value except as a warning of what NOT to emulate. If real life - it is all about a juvenile delinquint who needed real help. Elaborate on the technical superiority of the writing and prove me wrong. Explain the socio/literary teachings is gives us. Show how it is NOT about a juvenile delinquint who needed help. If you can't do these things, then you cannot debate my accuracy. Like many people, you may have simply mistook bluntness for hostility. A common error. Take a few workshops or classes on writing, and you'll see my critique is tame by comparison. Think of that british guy on that 'find a star' show on Fox and you'll get the idea.
#107 Nafarias[135093]
216.169.198.9
And warp - read what I said more carefully. Perhaps I misunderstand you, but you seem to have thought I actually thought I was a 17 year old or something. I said 'attitudinally'. A vague word, and perhaps I should have been clearer. I simply meant I'm happy and enjoy 'playing' more than 'work'. As far as mental maturity goes, see my above comment about writing critiques. I don't interpret your comments to me as hostile prima facie, nor as a sign that you lack mental maturity (as you have with me). I give the benefit of the doubt that you want to debate a point, and are just being direct about it. Being in countless writing circles has given me a thick skin about such things. Perhaps I err in assuming everyone else has such a capacity.
#108 ScotTt[135115]
128warp179.newtel.com
And I continue to stand by 103-106, I've been perfectly direct about my points. I didn't suggest once that it the story isn't about a juvenile delinquent. Nor was I attempting to prove this peice of writing to posess a social/literary value. I was merely stating that I enjoyed reading it, and that the thoughtless flames were immature (I'm aware I swore in this particular comment, I was fighting immaturity with immaturity). If you remember, this 'debate', if thats what you prefer to name it, started with my defending of Kaos for the flames that were being thrown at him by the commenting mob, of which you were part of. I wasn't singling you out, but somehow it led to this cheerful debate. Maybe you're not able to recall the debut of our discussion, but I do. Perhaps I err in assuming everyone else has such a capacity.

#109 ScotTt[135116]
128warp179.newtel.com
Sorry if I misled you when I said you dont strike me 17ish. Certainly I don't have your mental capcity, but I'm smart enough to assume you aren't having delusions of being 17 again. I meant that a 17 year old wouldn't be speaking of stable homes and debating, these are boring adult issues (in the mind of the average 17 year old). The average 17 year old would be having fun, or 'playing' as you put it, much like the authour of this peice was doing.

#110 ScotTt[135117]
128warp179.newtel.com
You seem to believe I'm debating your accurcacy. Don't you worry, Nafarias, I'm sure all your judgements are perfectly accurate. I'm debating your manners. You're right, of course, bluntness isn't hostility, however it isn't manners either. Didn't they teach you that in your writing circles? When you commented on others' writing, did they ask that you provide constructive criticism, or advice on how to improve? Did you ever comment on their work with "This is near-useless bunk"? No, I don't suppose you did. You wouldn't do that in a room together with people who are sharing literature. Earlier you said that it's as important to treat each other with respect on the net as it is in real life, but you said something here that you wouldn't have said to a person face-to-face.

#111 ScotTt[135118]
128warp179.newtel.com
WAIT A SECOND! Did I just say you weren't hostile??? You called his girlfriend, the woman he loved most, stupid and naive! And you said that his shrink didn't have what it takes to cure the writer's mental needs! Nafarious, buddy, you're a hypocrite! You think I'm debating your opinion of this peice of writing? I'm debating how you've conducted yourself on this comments section. You have not acted maturely. You're a grown man, Nafarias, but you don't act it. The fact that you would even think of trying to justify these statements proves that.

Bye,
Me

P.S. You seem to have mistaken 128warp179.newtel.com and me (ScotTt) as two different people...the same thing man, the same thing.
#112 Mcneal[135127]
x137-159-132-181.auto.pepperdine.edu
Scott, I do believe that you just put Nafarious in his proper place. Very good use of examples to back up your points.

And Nafarious, if you were Kaos' psychologist, what would you have done? Or maybe, what do you think a "competent" psychologist would have done?
#113 ThePalisade[135140]
s18.dial1.pro.nac.net
It's the height of idiocy to discuss the personal life of someone you don't even know. Just take the story as a piece of fiction because you're in no position to judge otherwise. I might have liked this, it was well written at points, but I abhor romantic plot lines.

Anyway, if I was a rater I would have given this a solid 8. Most raters are naturally biased against fiction and since I abhor romantics you'd think I'd give it lower but I like the style. Good work.

-Sven
#114 LameJoker[135141]
ip-209-23-3-95.modem.logical.net
(@ #103).....shit.....got me hehe gj, but don't be so condescending. BuuUUUuuut I did not say that the problem with this is that administration does not like this. I stated that members of this community could hypothetically stop coming to this site, and thus lead admin to think keeping up the site was a waste of time.

'Nyway, you got me. I personally think Dref's "When Worlds Collide" is a work of art that could be easily published in book form (if elongnated of course).

#100- Reading an entertaining BR is SUCH a better experience than simply watching a replay. Replays replacing BRs? Over my dead body (hehe not really)...
#115 k2o4[135144]
12-253-6-239.client.attbi.com
joker. notice the word, "kinda" after i said that replays killed the battlereporter. all i'm saying is that the amount of br's has seriously dropped since replays. it's not gone and i like br's a lot personally, but ever since replays they have lost their numbers.

scott you dun good. impressive.

Sven i like ur thinking.

Peace
-kAoS
#116 Nafarias[135152]
66.237.84.138
Lumping me in with 'immature flames' was a hasty assumption, but forgivable given my perchance for bluntness regarding literary analysis. To answer your point - yes - I have told people their work was crap in a room with them, right to their face - and they have done the same to me. Doesn't bug me, and didn't bug them. I recall our original debate was about swearing way back in the 50s. Then in the 70s was a bit I actually complemented on how to insult without swearing. Then the rest where you went off on me being mentally immature, etc...
#117 Nafarias[135153]
66.237.84.150
On 112: She WAS naive and stupid. There is no other way to put it. She should have listened to her mother and not touched Kaos with a 10 meter cattle-prod. In retrospect, perhaps I was unfair to the shrink. I was assuming the terms 'cool no-BS shrink' used to describe them meant that they were one of those useless shrinks that tries to be your 'friend'. Shrinks for juveniles far too often are more worried about being 'cool' and a 'bud' than actually helping the person. If they were not of that stripe - then certainly I was unjustified in implying they were not competent. If that IS what they were, then he needed to find a better shrink. He needed slapping upside the head - not a 'cool' adult to 'hang' with.
#118 Nafarias[135165]
66.237.84.150
But it is pretty amusing to be lectured on how to be a grown man by a 15 year old - particularly a hypocritical one. My household is one of peace, fun, and respect - while at the same time having bounds that will not be crossed. A Man doesn't swear, raise his voice, abuse substances, or neglect. He doesn't shirk responsibility - even when it requires sacrifice. He is faithful to his vows, and works to make the home happy and unafraid. A Man comforts, protects, nutures, and leads. Everything I have said is justified by the story itself. Juvenile delinquint. Naive/stupid girlfriend. The shrink's influence is questionable too since he didn't seem to be helping at all. You can't debate my accuracy, even you admit that, so you attack the motive. An abecedarian tactic at best.
#119 {DD}Fatboy[135181]
adsl-64-171-188-238.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
Nafarius, if you really are a grown man with a family, then what the fuck are you doing reading battlereports and wasting all this time debating with us teenagers? Get a life dude, spend some time with your family and away from us.

oh yea, and fuck you, suck my cock, cunt =)
#120 jimmy[135184]
144.139.223.154
Sheesh. Fatboy, you're definitely right.

-NJ
#121 Crazster[135195]
202.130.72.118
and incase no one seems to rememebr, most of the flames on here are from immature teens, who have left it with that, and not gone off arguing to defend their flame. Can't a lesson be picked up from that?
#122 ScotTt[135197]
128warp179.newtel.com
Crazster, you just read my mind. Nafarious apparently hasn't realized that not one person enjoys what he's saying.

Okay Nafarious...once again you have suceeded in completely misinterpreting what I've said. Since you enjoy naming this a debate, this will be my 'rebuttal' to your argument, however inapplicable it is to mine. I tire of this, however, for I realize now that Nafarious refuses to realize how and why he is wrong.

#123 ScotTt[135198]
128warp179.newtel.com
So you say you're perfectly mature. You try and prove it by depicting your family life at home, of which we cannot know anything about besides what you post here.

Hey, that's a good point. The only thing we can ever judge you on is how you act online, and we all seem to have been bothered by your statements. Part of the reason why we don't particulary enjoy your company here is because you're extremely condescending. Remember when you said "I never try try to sound smart. Such an effort would imply that I wasn't"? Not only are you condescending, but I now say you're immature and ignorant. Sorry if this is a little too 'direct', but you seem to enjoy directness, apparently you dont even mind being 'direct' (rude?) in your writing circles.

#124 ScotTt[135199]
128warp179.newtel.com
Here's why you're immature. You still fail in realizing that I dont CARE whether you're right. If it weren't for your cruel comments, I may have been engaged in a mature debate with you. This is not the matter however, because I don't particularly enjoy the rude and preumptious manner in which you debate. It doesn't matter if you think the shrink was a quack, the fact is you implyed the writer needed one, a cruel statement. Nor does it matter whether the girlfriend is stupid. She was someone the writer loved dearly, and you insulted her. Your comments have the potential to hurt this person to the very core. This is not the kind of behaviour you use in a debate. This is not the kind of behaviour you use ANYWHERE.

#125 ScotTt[135200]
128warp179.newtel.com
Now here's why you're ignorant. Besides the fact you still think I'm debating you're opinion of the story, you made a very stupid mistake in comment #120. You don't think someone at my age is capable of understanding how a man should act? I'll tell you what Nafarious, just in case you haven't realized, a 15 year old has not only nailed you on your hypocrisy and rude demeanor, but has been a leading factor in the disdainful opinions of you. This disdain is displayed by the readers of this comment section, whos opinions you obviously value since you shared YOUR opinion with them, way back at comment 11. I'll admit, underestimating the youth of today is a common fault, however I thought you had the intelligence to realize that teens have the potential to be just as significant as any adult. Suggesting otherwise affected at least 50% of the commenters here.

#126 ScotTt[135201]
128warp179.newtel.com
Now I'm sure Nafarias will simply come back with some more junk about how old and smart he is, how he's a model parent that knows better than some 15 year old. I'm sure he'll be 'amused' by this to a degree suficient to whip up another comment. I'm sure he'll make his argument using words twice the size of Texas that will astound and amaze us. Unfortunately, I won't be participating in the arguement any longer. I believe I've stated my opinions clearly enough, I don't need to post on this subject anymore. Nafarias, if you wish to venture a new point in your happy little debate, I refer you to my previous comments. They'll provide all the rebuttal you need.

Bye,
Me
#127 SiX5532ONE[135202]
client-151-198-243-110.qdx-it.com
yarbles
#128 ComicGenius[135206]
ip-209-23-2-131.modem.logical.net
This section has entered the realm of no return.

While curse-heavy flame wars can be sometimes funny, high-sounding flame wars are the epitomy of boring. And with that, I bid you adeu.



(prolly didn't spell that right...)
#129 Nafarias[135208]
216.169.198.9
125 - 126 irrelevant. 127 a rehash. 128 = odd definition of immaturity + "truth hurts, don't say it". If I said "very inexperienced girl of poor judgement" would you be happy? :) 128: 120 was about you being a HYPOCRITICAL 15 year old. I dismiss points because you use ad hominems, non sequiters, and ad hocs - not just because you are 15. You accuse me of rudeness, say that it invalidates me, and go on to be twice as rude yourself. Being a man is all about accepting full responsibility for self and others in a household. It is unlikely at age 15 you have been presented with the OPPORTUNITY to accept that level of responsibility. It doesn't mean you don't have the ability. You can only have an 'outside-in' perspective unless you are in unusual circumstances. 129: I refer you to this statement as it deals nicely (and briefly) with your previous comments. I AM amused ;) and regret that you do not see fit to continue - alas.
#130 jimmy[135209]
CWPP-p-203-54-206-191.prem.tmns.net.au
What ComicGenius said

-NJ
#131 ZeaL[135223]
proxys.or4.marketscore.com
May i ask, without reading any comments, how the fuck this thing gets 134 comments, when only CB reports do that?
#132 Kane[135224]
12-233-180-134.client.attbi.com
Because people are fucking stupid? Seems reasonable
#133 Crazster[135231]
202.130.70.194
I refer you to my post #123 that adress will explain everything. Scott has done the smart thing, and proved his point has left. While naf over there decided he is still right because as of my oppinion he thinks 15 year olds can't beat someone his age. Now this is my final comment on this topic because scott has proved the point i have not been able to. Naf you just argue to yourself, because if you have so much bloomin time read the website i gave int he above mentions post.
This is me out.
#134 Chris[135234]
astound-64-85-237-118.ca.astound.net
This has got to be the biggest comments section ever. Mosts of the posts aren't me going "asdf" or such on a Some_God report.
#135 {DD}Fatboy[135239]
adsl-64-171-191-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
lol, amusing to see how far we've moved away from the "battlereport" itself. once again, all I want to say is i found is very entertaining and a well-worth read,
#136 striz[135294]
24.102.187.224
my final post here:

Craz, lmao @ #136. That's pretty much the gist of things. I think what Naf doesn't understand is that intelligence doesn't increase with age. Bugger off man, because nobody cares, and you're just making yourself severely unpopular.

Scott, kudos. You don't have to be 21 to make a decent point. =D

man...you know the site is on a downward spiral when...

striz
#137 k2o4[135300]
webuser.hampshire.edu
a nice little side track here. scott > naf

would be nice if it was 139 comments focusing directly on the story and not this sidetrack, but take what you get. and it was fun watching scott slap naf around.

so hopefully no more people feel the need to post on this. would like to say thanks to anyone who read the story, even if you didn't like it, and thanks to anyone who made a comment on the actual story itself.

Peace
-KaoS
#138 jimmy[135342]
144.138.240.190
your right krael - nearly 1000.

-NJ
#139 [135359]
GAU42-04.labs.uidaho.edu
An earlier post referred to a report written by (I think) Cynical magician, titled parabola fish or something like that. -Please don't take my ignorance of the author/title to describe any unfamiliarity with the work, as it actually stems from a few years removal from having read it- That particular submission touched me, and it did so because it pertained to my life, and was written with an honesty that left out nothing. This report, although written with a different style, did the same. I had no problem getting past the simplistic wording, that sometimes fallible sentence structure, and the lack of proper paragraphing, because the story itself contained some of the same emotions that I myself felt at that age, and portrayed some of the very same experiences that I had as well. It takes talent to bring a reader to empathize with you when your subject is beer, sex, and growing pains, and this writer succeeded in doing so.
#140 [135360]
GAU42-04.labs.uidaho.edu
Perhaps some of the above posters did not have some of these experiences. If that is so, then obviously this story wouldn't mean anything to you. However, if you are unable to appreciate something simply because you haven't experienced it, then you can't expect anyone to value your opinion, as it is useless to the community as a whole.
Since this is most likely my last post, I feel that I might as well finish it how I intended to start it. 99.9% of the people on these comment boards would do better if they just limited themselves to their personal score for the article. If you don't like it, then give it a 0. If you really feel that you can help the writer by offering structure advice, or perhaps a gentle vocabulary suggestion, then do so. But keep your pig-headed opinions to yourself, because not only does it make you look assinine, it reflects badly on the site that you hold so dear.
#141 k2o4[135362]
webuser.hampshire.edu
i'm glad you liked the story, and truly appreciate your comment. well said.

Peace
-kaoS
#142 bizamman[135432]
cache-ntc-ad01.proxy.aol.com
really good stuff was hooked through the whole thing
#143 andaca[135514]
ool-4353591e.dyn.optonline.net
umm....the twenty five minutes this took to read honestly wasnt that worth it....i mean, your idea and all is fine, its just that the style of writing is something that could be touched up upon a lot. And i mean a lot.

Unless of course, you were trying to write like a stoned 16 year old teen...
#144 enak[135794]
12-233-180-134.client.attbi.com
Holy comments section, Batman! The legion of lamers is ladeling us with laughable lunacy!

No, Robin. Belive it or not, they actually do not know how stupid they are. It's sad, isn't it?

Holy retards, Batman! Do you really mean it?

Sadly, Robin, I do. Maybe, Robin, in the future people will be smarter. But until then, all we can do is dream... for a better tommorow!

You said it, Batman!
#145 [135870]
12-222-57-81.client.insightBB.com
1 word:

bleh

Wait no, just 1.
#146 Kane[136011]
12-233-180-134.client.attbi.com
haha =]
#147 jimmy[136252]
144.139.223.201
hi dref, and yes you're right.

Post some more of these in a different format, plz.

-NJ
#148 Shadow D'Arc[137100]
cache-ra03.proxy.aol.com
101st-GPA doesn't matter to be an air force officer, only your ability to fold your clothing neatly. That, and saluting with your hand covering your right eye. For the record, I spent 5 months in training on an air force base for my MOS in the army, and after I got to my post, I received a letter from a captain at West Point asking me to go. If I do decide to go, it will be for the paid college education.

Peace,
Shadow D'Arc
#149 Triped[137102]
dsc04-chc-il-2-241.rasserver.net
bahahha

#150 k2o4[137193]
webuser.hampshire.edu
dref is a great example of a talented writer who at the same time is a complete loser. Kinda like Jack London, the drunk who died alone and wrote about alaska when he only went once in his entire life, but he wrote well. dref, i like your writing, but you are a pathetic prick.

Peace
-kaoS
#151 jimmy[137737]
CWPP-p-203-54-207-13.prem.tmns.net.au
k2o4, do you know dref personally or something?

-NJ



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